Build Thread Bench Racing Exercice On Building a 223 Performance Or Turbo Engine

[bubba22349]

Pmuller9 has been graciously donating his time in researching to find some better parts that could be used in building a High Performance 223 or 262 short block. This has led to what looks to be a very good combo for an aftermarket Connecting Rod and Custom Forged Piston from Auto / Race Tech to use in these six's, this is one of the weaker links that I personally found in these engines when racing them. Didn't kick any rods out the side of a block but knocked out some Rod bearings and coming real close to it.

This morning I also came back across some info and pictures of an old 223 Turbo build by our site member "curts56", so decided to use it as some of the inspiration for the start of this 223 build up. Below are the posts I was able to find were curts56 talked about his 223 Turbo engine. Evidently this is the only Turbo 223 build that's been documented on the Ford Six site. I also like it that he still has 1956 F-100 pickup that he used it in, these pickups have always been a big favorite of mine and is was what I learned to drive in and started racing with.

[Quoted by Curts56]
"Yes I'd do it again. The turbo I used was a Rotomaster T04B. It was part of a universal inline six turbo kit that Rotomaster once sold (Turbo #710250, installation kit #720001). The kit came with most of the pieces such as turbo, boost controller, J-bend tubing, gaskets, oil lines, etc. Being a universal kit meant you had to do some fabricating. Here is a list of engine parts I used (fuzzy memory):

Rods: Stock – shot peened
Crank: Stock – shot peened
Pistons: Sealed Power
Cam: Iskenderian
Carb: Holley 350 2bbl.
Valves: Chevy – Larger than stock 223.

I used water injection to prevent detonation. I also ended up fabricating a head gasket out of a sheet of copper after blowing a few stock ones. Probably O-ringing the head or block would have prevented that. If you are not looking for a high HP six then the 223 is a great engine. Curt"

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Check this out!!! It's a turbo 223;COOL!!!

[Quote by curts56] on May 24, 2004. "Those pictures are of the engine that was in my 56 F-100 20+ years ago. It ran really great until the boost controller started sticking and allowed the boost to get up over 11lbs. That was really fun till a connecting rod snapped and blew holes in both sides of the block." From what other info I found that curts56 stated this means his Turbo system was used back in around 1978 or 1979 in his 1956 F-100..

[Quoted by curts56] on July 7, 2019 regarding a proposed 223 Tubo build. "You'll probably be ok if you keep the boost down around 8lbs or less. I busted a connecting rod on my turboed 223 when the boost got up to around 11lbs"

The Curt56 223 Turbo Build 3 More Pictures of His Draw Through Turbo

http://www.ckdesign-inc.com/images/Turbo/223-1.jpg

Sounds like it was quite a fun little engine and I wonder why no one else here has built another Turbo 223. Edited

 

[bubba22349]

We need to know what the Deck Height of a 223 & 262 block is (I believe both engines have the same deck height) this is so we can figure out what lenght connecting rod will work. If you know this info or have a bare block you can measure that would be helpful.

For this basic starting build plan I will be using either a 223 block or if posable to find a compleate 1961 to 1965 262 engine core to use.

Examples of 223 & 262 Parts & Engines
A 1958 223 bare block. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OS8AAOSwPK1ZSp3v/s-l300.jpg

This is 1962 262 Engine out of an Ford F500 truck. https://media.nextechclassifieds.com/img/listings/da/dauerdc/listing_pic_1808496_1600303021.jpeg

This s 1964 Ford F100 262 Engine. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachments/64-f100-262-restored-jpg.3641511/

Currently my thinking is in wanting this engine to have a vintage look or be real old school, kind of like a 1963 or 1964 F100 pickup 262 engine stock they were painted a Black color, their Valve Cover were painted in Argent Silver, I do have an Early Valve Cover that is Copper Plated so that one possibility, then maye plate the side cover and some other small parts to match.

Picking from the Best of the 223 or 262 Factory Parts This list will be updated as I have find out more data or do more research.

215, 223, & 262 Engine Block's
The 1961 to 1964 223 Six (there were some 1965 Idustrial uses too) these block have the much better / improved oiling system that's better for performance use, over the 1952 & 1953 215's or 1954 to 1960 223's what we're only ok for use in totally stock or mild builds they can be moded some to help fix the problem. The 1961 to 1964 262 Six Blosk (might be some 1965 Idustrial versions to) they will also have the better oiling system too.

The Crankshaft will be a 1961 to 1965 223 (Cast Steel) 3.60 stroke. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachments/20150517_223i6_10_10-jpg.3407065/

Or a 1961 to 1964 262 crankshaft (Factory Forged Steel) stock stroke 4.03 or maybe De-Stroked it a 1/4 inch to 3.750.

215, 223, 262, Connecting Rods
The stock Conecting Rods would need to match the crankshaft journals size that you use so the early 1952-53 215 Connecting Rods (these are slightly longer than the 223 Rods) they are are wider on the big end so use them only on the 1952 & 53 215 crankshaft or a 1954 to 1960 223 Crankshaft in you using a custom piston Compression height. The 1954 to 1960 223 Connecting Rods are also wider on the big end size so will only work on the early 223 crankshafts from 1954 to 1960. In 1961 along with the change in the later crankshafts all the 1961 to 1965 Connecting Rods were made narrower on the big ends so they need to be used on the 1961 to 1965 Crankshafts. The 1961 to 1964 262 Connecting Rods are the same narrower big end size but they are much shorter than a 223 Rod to use with the long Stroke 262 Firged Steel Crankshafts.

For this aplacation will be using a Custom aftermarket BB Chevy Rod the length is yet to be determined. Example 6.800 Rod. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CacAAOSwTgJfgH8-/s-l400.jpg

The Pistons will be aftermarket Forged in a Custom (probably from Auto/RaceTech) made size and specs are yet to be determined. https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/f1a81add-4d3b-11e6-9841-14feb5d39f6a/ols/548_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600

For the a Cylinder Head can be anything from the better castings used from 1957 to 1965 which will work, will be Ported and with Big Valves. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C4sAAOSwGihfdwSl/s-l300.jpg

As mentioned above want this engine to look vintage / old school to maybe fit with the rules of "The For Ever Four" vintage drag meet held in Fontana Calif. also mostly for the bracket races here in Arizona and the surrounding areas.
I had this idea back about 13 or 14 years ago of building a car that could compeate in that Antque Drag event and was looking for a 262 for quite awhile. Don't remember what all their rules were there was a certain year cut off so was thinking a a drag T Roadster, or a 1949 to 1956 car or pickup. I would also use the car in the locale area bracket racing so car should also meet those rules or be convertible with simple changes of a few parts or equipment.

In order to use the above Early Copper Plated Valve Cover the Rocker Arm Assembly also needs to be one of the early style 1954 to 1959 or maybe to 1960 that has the two stands with studs to bolt down the valve cover, I have two sets of 6 of the Barker High Ratio Rocker Arms, but am going to also try to go see if I can make up a set of Roller Rocker Arms if it's possible. http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/67/2004467/001.jpg

The Oil pump will need to be a C4AE-6604-A, 1964 / 1965 these have the larger 5/16 Drive Shaft. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1846497713...1291&msclkid=a11c6f9f9f7414dc376b0ebb125804f5

Camshaft for a 223 will be a cross drilled core with Custom Ground specs that are yet to be determined. https:www.ebay.com/itm/142995030098

The Camshaft for 262's Trucks is Gear Driven so it would need to be a 262 core ( since those are a reverse rotation like a 300 Ford Six). This will also be a custom grind as of yet to be dermaned.

Timing Chain Gear set For a 223
Ford Y Block / 223 RollMaster Billet True Roller Timing Chain Muilti Key Gear Set. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TXgAAOSwOK1eNGEd/s-l640.jpg
http://www.ford-y-block.com/timinginstall.htm

Timing Set for a 262 is a Stock Gear Drive used in the 1961 to 1965 Big Truck and Industrail Engines. At this time I don't know if the 262 lighter duty engine versions that was an option in the 1961 to 1964 F250 to F350 and the 1964 F100 Pickups used a gear drive or the 223 cam and timing chain gear set.

Stock 223 Mushroom Valve Lifters.

Ford Made in the USA Solid Lifters 239, 272, 292 & 312

Clay Smith Cams, home of Mr. Horsepower engineers world class camshafts and custom cams. If you need extra horsepower, performance and the muscle car sound, check out our line of cams.

www.claysmithcams.com

Will probally use a 1976 to 1982 300 Ford DuraSpark II Distributor that is modded to fit into the 223 block (using the 223 Distribitor gear or if a 262 then it's Drive gear) with an MSD.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.ford-trucks.com-vbulletin/2000x1124/80-20150711_121614_2df99ecadeda275f93be6715b12a3ff641a7df0d.jpg

MSD 6AL CD Box. http://www.catalograck.com/ImgVDHR/MSD/6425_v1.jpg

Progression Ignition Another Distributor Choice that might be even better especially for a Turbo Engine build.

I discovered this new company building these performance distributors back in May of June 2020 while i was recuperating from a surgery this was just by chance while doing some other research. These distributors are a brand new ignition solution that is totally digital so that there are no more mechanical advance parts to wear out, bind, or needing to adjust for a timing curve. This unit is quickly programed by using your smart phone, I Pad, or some others. Check out their small and large cap versions of Progression Ignition distributors that is loaded with great features and will fit our 170, 200, & 250 Ford Small and 240 & 300 Big Block Six engines, (and most other engines that had a distributor type ignitions too). Since it is made for a 300 Ford Six it can be used in the 223, & 262 by doing an easy distributor drive gear change and the 1964 / 1965 223 / 262 spec oil pump. Some more info links are below

Progression Ignition
https://progressionignition.com

Listings for Ford Engines Including Our Small and Big Six's
https://progressionignition.com/shop/ol ... istributor

Ford 223 Water Pump. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VNIAAOSws6teflq0/s-l300.jpg

Clifford 4V Intake Manifold. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a3wAAOSwI9Bgmaep/s-l300.jpg

Custom made Tunel Ram Intake using Two Carb's this is a design I have been thinking about for quite a few years and it just might be the time to weld one up for this project.

Holley 0-1848-2 465 CFM 4 Barrel Carb One or a matching Pair

https://images.holley.com/0-1848-2_06.jpg

Matching Pair of Holley 350 to 500 CFM 2V's

Matching Pair of Autolite or Motorcraft 4100 or 4150 4V Carb's

Matching Pair of Autolite or Motorcraft 2100 or 2150 2V Carb's.

GalixieInlines Beatifuly detailed 223 has a Clifford 2 X 4V Intake Manifold with 2 X 2V Weber Carbs.

https://fordsix.com/attachments/20170721_202304-jpg.1807/

Ford 223 Patriot Duel Out Headers. https://content.speedwaymotors.com/ProductImages/447H8425_L_dd7c2329-39f2-4664-affb-56931db3dbf9.jpg

Ford 223 Pickup Truck Headers. https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/tmp/192/192470.520.390

Ford 223 Cliffords Pickup Truck Headers. https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/ef61e234-345b-4c03-9a17-f5010bae9646/ols/75_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600

For the N / A 223 version I am thinking of 9.8 to 10.5 to 1 C.R. but want something that can be able to run on Premium Pump Gas. To start will have either a Clifford Single 4V or a Duel Carb Intake with 2 X 2V Holleys or 2 X 4V Holley's, custom Drag Race Headers.

I can picture this engine being in a very simple light weight Tube Chassis with a 1923 T Fiberglass Roadster Body or maybe a 1927 Roadster Body.

Example of a 1960's era 1923 T Drag Roadster. https://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/sta..._dd784424-ef6d-4cef-96a0-4d0b9a7c20cd_Web.jpg

Example of Boggie 1927 T Drag Roadster. http://www.drag.race-cars.com/carsold/other/brog27/brog27pb.htm

A 9 inch or 8.8 rear axle, for a Trans that there are adapters for first is the C4 Trans, others that fit are a C6, the AOD, a Powerglide or many other GM auto's. For the possible manual transmissions that can fit there is the Borg Warner T85 3 Speed with Over Drive, a a Ford Top Loader 4 Speed, or maybe a T5

For a Turbo 223 version I am thinking 8.0 to 8.6 to 1 C.R. A Cliford Single 4V and Holley currently I do have a nice 465 CFM. Custom built Turbo header. A C4, C6, or Powergluide Trans. 9 inch rear axle or 8.8. I see many possible Body Chassis combos from the 1941's the year Ford had installed a 226 flathead six to a 1951 Ford Bussiness Coupes to maybe a 1959 Ford 300 Sedan or a 1935 to 1964 Ford F100 short bed pickup.

Let me know what you think and if you might have some good used parts that you don't need that maybe could work for this build. Thank you. Edited

 

[CNC-Dude]

There's a guy on the HAMB that has a very extreme HP build with one of these engines in a Bonneville land speed truck. It's pretty awesome...They just went 122.710 MPH. 9 MPH off the record.

 

[bubba22349]

Hi CNC-Dude, thank you, yes I do know of him and he was actually here on our site back in July 2016 to April, 2017 researching 223 & 262 engine info during the beginning of his build. I am really pleased that he is being so successful with his engine combo.

H.P. engine build 223/262 L 6

I'll try to keep this short so right to the point... I am undertaking a build for a XO/PP class truck for Bonneville in 2017 . I will be using the 223 or 262 ford L6 engine for power... I have started the research and development stage's for the engine and I find almost no information on these...

fordsix.com

 

[CNC-Dude]

This week was his third trip to Bonneville with the truck. He keeps improving with each trip. Lots of real world data mentioned in his build thread over there like head porting numbers, etc... Since he's already been there and done that, his combo is full of proven parts and data that could shorten the hunt for info and parts.

 

['62 Susie Q]

We need to know what the Deck Height of a 223 & 262 block is (I believe both engines have the same deck height) this is so we can figure out what lenght connecting rod will work. If you know this info or have a bare block you can measure that would be helpful.

For this basic starting build plan I will be using either a 223 block or if posable to find a compleate 1961 to 1965 262 engine core to use. A 1958 223 bare block. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OS8AAOSwPK1ZSp3v/s-l300.jpg

This is 1962 262 Engine out of an Ford F500 truck. https://media.nextechclassifieds.com/img/listings/da/dauerdc/listing_pic_1808496_1600303021.jpeg

This s 1964 Ford F100 262 Engine. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachments/64-f100-262-restored-jpg.3641511/

I want this engine to look vintage and old school like a 1963 or 1964 F100 pickup 262 engine so its going to be painted in the stock Black color, their Valve cover was painted in an Argent Silver, I will be using a Copper Plated Early Valve Cover instead, and may plate the side cover and some other parts to match.

The Crankshaft will be a 1961 to 1965 223. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachments/20150517_223i6_10_10-jpg.3407065/
or a 1961 to 1964 262 crankshaft stock or maybe De-Stroked a 1/4 inch to 3.750.

Conecting Rods will be a Custom aftermarket the length is yet to be determined. Example 6.800 Rod. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CacAAOSwTgJfgH8-/s-l400.jpg

The Pistons will be aftermarket Forged in a Custom made size and specs are yet to be determined. https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/f1a81add-4d3b-11e6-9841-14feb5d39f6a/ols/548_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600

For the Cylinder Head can be anything from 1957 to 1965 will work, will be Ported and with Big Valves. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C4sAAOSwGihfdwSl/s-l300.jpg
As mentioned above want this engine to look vintage / old school to maybe fit with the rules of "The For Ever Four" vintage drag meet held in Fontana Calif. also mostly for the bracket races here in Arizona and the surrounding areas.

To use the above Early Copper Plated Valve Cover the Rocker Arm Assembly also needs to be one of the early style 1954 to 1959 or maybe to 1960, I have two sets of 6 of the Barker High Ratio Rocker Arms, but am going to also try to go see if I can make up a set of Roller Rocker Arms if it's possible. http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/67/2004467/001.jpg

The Oil pump will be a C4AE-6604-A, 1964 5/16 Drive Shaft. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1846497713...1291&msclkid=a11c6f9f9f7414dc376b0ebb125804f5

Camshaft will be a cross drilled core with Custom Ground specs that are yet to be determined. https://www.ebay.com/itm/142995030098

Ford Y Block / 223 RollMaster Billet True Roller Timing Chain Muilti Key Gear Set. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TXgAAOSwOK1eNGEd/s-l640.jpg
http://www.ford-y-block.com/timinginstall.htm

Stock 223 Mushroom Valve Lifters.

Ford Made in the USA Solid Lifters 239, 272, 292 & 312

Clay Smith Cams, home of Mr. Horsepower engineers world class camshafts and custom cams. If you need extra horsepower, performance and the muscle car sound, check out our line of cams.

www.claysmithcams.com

Will probally use a 1976 to 1982 300 Ford DuraSpark II Distributor modded to fit into the 223 block with an MSD.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.ford-trucks.com-vbulletin/2000x1124/80-20150711_121614_2df99ecadeda275f93be6715b12a3ff641a7df0d.jpg

MSD 6AL CD Box. http://www.catalograck.com/ImgVDHR/MSD/6425_v1.jpg


Ford 223 Water Pump. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VNIAAOSws6teflq0/s-l300.jpg

Clifford 4V Intake Manifold. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a3wAAOSwI9Bgmaep/s-l300.jpg

Holley 0-1848-2 465 CFM 4 Barrel Carb One or Two

https://images.holley.com/0-1848-2_06.jpg

GalixieInlines Beatifuly detailed 223 has a Clifford 2 X 4V Intake Manifold with 2 X 2V Weber Carbs.

https://fordsix.com/attachments/20170721_202304-jpg.1807/

Ford 223 Patriot Duel Out Headers. https://content.speedwaymotors.com/ProductImages/447H8425_L_dd7c2329-39f2-4664-affb-56931db3dbf9.jpg

Ford 223 Pickup Truck Headers. https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/tmp/192/192470.520.390

Ford 223 Cliffords Pickup Truck Headers. https://isteam.wsimg.com/ip/ef61e234-345b-4c03-9a17-f5010bae9646/ols/75_original/:/rs=w:600,h:600

For the N / A 223 version I am thinking of 9.8 to 10.5 to 1 C.R. but want something that can be able to run on Premium Pump Gas. This will have either a Clifford Single 4V or a Duel Carb Intake with 2 X 2V Holleys or 2 X 4V Holley's, custom Drag Race Headers. I picture this engine in a simple light weight Tube Chassis with a 1923 T Fiberglass Roadster Body or a 1927 Roadster Body. 9 inch or 8.8 rear axle, for a Trans that there are adapters for first is the C4 Trans, others that fit are a C6, the AOD, a Powerglide or many other GM auto's. For the possible manual transmissions that can fit there is the Borg Warner T85 3 Speed with Over Drive, a a Ford Top Loader 4 Speed, or maybe a T5

For a Turbo 223 version I am thinking 8.0 to 8.6 to 1 C.R. A Cliford Single 4V and Holley currently I do have a nice 465 CFM. Custom Turbo header. A C4, C6, or Powergluide Trans. 9 inch rear axle or 8.8. I see many possible Body Chassis from the 1949 Ford Bussiness Coupe to a 1959 Ford Sedan or a 1941 to 1964 Ford F100 shirt bed pickup.

Let me know what you think and if you might have some good used parts that you don't need that could maybe work for this build. Thank you. Edited

Grab some popcorn and an adult beverage. This will be fun to watch; I'm taking copious notes! THANKS.

 

[manglass]

If you're thinking about turbocharging, fuel injection might be a better option than a carburetor. It will be easier to set up, more adaptable, and definitely more reliable. A Holley Sniper 2300 might be just about right. I'm no turbocharging guru but I worked for Saab for almost 20 years and I'd be happy to share any of that experience.

I've talked to "johnrodz" a couple of times by text and phone. His roller rockers came from Jesel but he told me the price would take my breath away! His build is based on a 262. I don't think, size wise, he did anything more than an overbore which would make it a little closer to square.

I'm also pretty sure the deck heights were the same on the blocks. I'll see if I have a reference. I also have an old build sheet from Clifford "back in the day". If I can find it, I'd be happy to post it up if you'd like.

Lou Manglass

 

[CNC-Dude]

 

[CNC-Dude]

Build thread from the HAMB..... Some engine bling starts on page 2. Billet main girdle and billet rods are inside and more.....

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/xo-pp-bonneville-project.1091049/page-42#post-14174833

 

[bubba22349]

CNC-Dude, yes after you had mentioned John this morning I went over to the HAMB to see if I could find his posts took awhile but found some of it and that led me to where his main engine & truck build thread was. Yes it's a real work of art what he's done to the 262, I diffenately can learn some things over there, it's a very well though out and good looking race truck. My build will be different as it will be geared to drag racing and at this point I don't have or even know what car it's going in, plus the budget is going to have be much lower. I have been thinking about doing another T Roadster for awhile. I really like the race cars (the 27 T's) that Broddie built back in the day and my first Hot Rod I built was a 27 T back in high school. Or a simple fiberglass 23 T or maybe an Austin body and a basic tube chassis would be quick and do the deal for a bracket car.

 

[bubba22349]

Hi Lou, yes thank you, for sure the Clifford build sheat would be interesting to study. I can also use lots of help to speed up the learning curve process too. The Turbo's that I worked on we're only on heavy construction equipment so only know a little basic info nothing much that translates over for any kind of automotive use or a performance build. I did work on some Super Charged drag cars of a couple of friends. My idea was that the short block could be used for either type of build, by swaping out the Cam, Head and other top end parts. But maybe if I can acquire enough engine parts I could build two completely different engines. In the past before I moved to Az, I had been hunting for a 262 engine or a short block for a long time without any success so will see. But even a 223 can work for this project. Yes I just seen his set of Roller Rocker Arms today they are really beautiful I can tell they would be costly. My idea is that I could maybe make up a set using aluminum roller rockers like are used on the small Ford six if not I will use the Barkers that I have or maybe mod them were they would be Rollerized on the shaft for a little less friction. These are only a guess though until I start measureing parts and see if they can fit togeather with some work. I have lots of ideas that I have been thinking about for years as well as things that I know can work from some of the other cars I have built in the past.

 

[bubba22349]

Thank you 62 Susie Q, I hope it will be interesting.

 

[CNC-Dude]

There is a lot of valid crossover details and info that can benefit your build also. Especially in the block relieving for valve unshrouding. All that is shown in his build.

 

[bubba22349]

Yes that's for sure these old six'es like the Y Block V8's have the same trouble of a bit of a ledge hanging over the cylinder wall in that area. He is using the bigger bore 262 block which helps a 223 is going to be even worse with big valves installed. I seen that he had modded that area on his block prep pictures he is quite maticulus in his engine work, I think I remember that Isky Cams used to have those cutters that you could use on Piston Tops so you cut enough valve lift clearance.

 

[CNC-Dude]

My recollection also is that Isky makes those cutters. Very much needed with that small bore big valve scenario. If you don't plan on a main girdle, I'd suggest at the minimum some main straps since it's only a 4 main engine.

 

[bubba22349]

Yes I was first planing to at least make some of the main cap bar type straps like were often used on the old 1960's and 70's two bolt main drag race prepped blocks, the other thing I was thinking about were getting some billet main caps made like they do on the Flathead V8's. As a side note racing my old 28 Model A the first and last time around July 1966 those four Bangers only had 3 mains too. I managed to crack the rear main cap in half during one of the 3 or 4 "LOL" blistering passes I made that day with it, still i was able to drive back home again. From then on I was hooked on drag racing long ago back on that July day, so soon after that's is when I started my second racing venture with the 223 six'es.

But then yesterday after seeing his Aluminum Full Block Girdle he made what an absolute beauty it is, I got to wondering how much something like that would cost to make that's probably the hot ticket for doing any kind of a serious Turbo engine build. It also reminded me of when I had Milodon make me a full steel Girdle for my 427 SOHC back in 1969 (it was for my 1940 Willys A/G build) being at their SoCal shop I had seen how those girdles were being made. I am sure I could do one of those the old school way (with a Smoke Wrench) or if I can find someone with a water jet that would probably be the better way to do it today, what do you think CNC-Dude?

 

[CNC-Dude]

With a detailed drawing I could whip something up for you. Let me know!

 

[Firepower354]

Comments: GAS, CAR ONLY FORD 3.7 223 54-64 Housing Bore Size: 2.4230-2.4238" (61.544-61.565 MM) Torque: 40-50 FT/LBS Center to Center: 6.250" (158.75 MM) Pin Type: LOCK Finish Bushing I.D.: .9126-.9129" (23.18-23.188 MM) Pin Diameter: .9122" (23.17 MM) Casting Numbers: C1AE-6205-C1, C1AE-6205D1, C1TE, C20E, C30E-A, C3AE-6205E1, C3AE-6205-E1, C3AE-620E1, C3AE-D, C3AE-J, C3TE, C8DE, CONN-6200B, EAA-6200B, EAA-6205A

A favorite resource of mine

http://www.guiaautomotrizcr.com/images/Aeraid%20connecting%20rod%20manual.pdf

1.857 CH according to Silvolite

 

[bubba22349]

Thank you CNC-Dude I will keep that in mind once I find a core engine or two to be able to measure and work from. I wonder if there's any engineering drawings of the 223 & 262 six'es out there still?

 

[bubba22349]

Thank you Firepower354, have been trying to find out what the 223 and 262 six'es block deck height is to know how long of an aftermarket connecting Rod can be used with a custom forged piston.